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„(17. 01. 2024) – Dobr\u00fd de\u0148. Na ulici Blagoevova – najm\u00e4 zo strany gar\u00e1\u017e\u00ed je ne\u00fanosna situ\u00e1cia pri parkovan\u00ed, sp\u00f4soben\u00e1 ve\u013ek\u00fdm k\u0155d\u013eom havranov, ktor\u00ed svojim trusom po\u0161kodzuj\u00fa zaparkovan\u00e9 vozidl\u00e1 a ohrozuj\u00fa \u013eud\u00ed.“, <\/a><\/span>s\u0165a\u017eoval sa na str\u00e1nke starostu Petr\u017ealky m\u00f4j sused. Nepreh\u00e1\u0148al to aj  s t\u00fdm ohrozovan\u00edm \u013eud\u00ed. Na moju dc\u00e9ru za\u00fato\u010dila vrana, len, len sa jej ubr\u00e1nila.  Pr\u00ed\u010dinou bola ur\u010dite fenka Lara, ktor\u00fa ven\u010dila. Najprv sa vrhla na ps\u00edka a ke\u010f ju pani\u010dka chcela odohna\u0165, vrhla sa jej priamo na tv\u00e1r. S fenkou Jack Russella i\u0161la  po frekventovanom chodn\u00edku, nie niekde pod stromom, kde mohla ma\u0165 vrana hniezdo.  Ke\u010f mi to popisovala, bola to hotov\u00e1 sc\u00e9na do hororu Ft\u00e1ci II.  Ft\u00e1ci<\/strong> nie Fauci<\/strong>, aby si to n\u00e1hodou niekto nepoplietol, ten sme za\u017eili a ur\u010dite bude sfilmovan\u00fd. U\u017e m\u00e1m aj tip na hlavn\u00e9ho predstavite\u013ea –  protagonistu filmu Smrtiaca epid\u00e9mia<\/a>. V \u0148om gener\u00e1li navrhli zlikvidovanie mesta s infekciou zhoden\u00edm at\u00f3movej bomby. U n\u00e1s sme „at\u00f3mofku“ tie\u017e za\u017eili po\u010das Matovi\u010dovho boja s covidom.<\/a> Na\u0161\u0165astie sme ako pam\u00e4tn\u00edci niektor\u00ed pre\u017eili.
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O mimoriadnej inteligencii vr\u00e1n sved\u010d\u00ed napr\u00edklad fakt, \u017ee na rozb\u00edjanie orechov pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00fa koles\u00e1 \u00e1ut. Ke\u010f \u017eiadne v bl\u00edzkosti nie je, nev\u00e1haj\u00fa chodcovi hodi\u0165 pod nohy orech. Mne vrana, ktor\u00e1 striehla na strome s orechom v zob\u00e1ku, orech pod nohy nechcela  hodi\u0165. \u010cudoval som sa. Ke\u010f som po\u010dul, ako za mnou typicky orechovo \u0165uklo o chodn\u00edk  a oto\u010dil som sa, uvidel som za sebou d\u00e1mu, ktor\u00e1 bola asi 2x \u0165a\u017e\u0161ia ako ja. Mudra vrana p<\/span>resne odhadla moju mu\u0161iu v\u00e1hu a to, \u017ee by som jej orech zjedol.   <\/span><\/div>\n
No, to sme ale odbo\u010dili.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Refer\u00e1t \u017eivotn\u00e9ho prostredia Petr\u017ealky nezav\u00e1hal a odpovedal:<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n
„Dobr\u00fd de\u0148, posielame stanovisko refer\u00e1tu \u017eivotn\u00e9ho prostredia: V zmysle Zoznamu chr\u00e1nen\u00fdch \u017eivo\u010d\u00edchov, ktor\u00fd tvor\u00ed pr\u00edlohu \u010d. 5 vyhl\u00e1\u0161ky M\u017dP SR \u010d. 170\/2021, ktorou sa vykon\u00e1va z\u00e1kon \u010d. 543\/2002 Z. z. o ochrane pr\u00edrody a krajiny v znen\u00ed neskor\u0161\u00edch predpisov s\u00fa vrana \u010dierna a havran \u010dierny chr\u00e1nen\u00e9 \u017eivo\u010d\u00edchy. Pod\u013ea z\u00e1kona o ochrane pr\u00edrody \u00a7 35 ods. 2 je zak\u00e1zan\u00e9: – zbiera\u0165 alebo \u00famyselne po\u0161kodzova\u0165 alebo ni\u010di\u0165 vajcia chr\u00e1nen\u00e9ho \u017eivo\u010d\u00edcha v jeho prirodzenom are\u00e1li vo vo\u013enej pr\u00edrode alebo dr\u017ea\u0165 ich vr\u00e1tane pr\u00e1zdnych vajec, – odstra\u0148ova\u0165 alebo \u00famyselne po\u0161kodzova\u0165 alebo ni\u010di\u0165 hniezda chr\u00e1nen\u00e9ho \u017eivo\u010d\u00edcha v jeho prirodzenom are\u00e1li, – po\u0161kodzova\u0165 alebo ni\u010di\u0165 miesta rozmno\u017eovania alebo miesta odpo\u010dinku chr\u00e1nen\u00e9ho \u017eivo\u010d\u00edcha v jeho prirodzenom are\u00e1li. Pri bytovom dome sa kol\u00f3nie havranov m\u00f4\u017eu zhroma\u017e\u010fova\u0165 najm\u00e4 vtedy, ke\u010f h\u013eadaj\u00fa miesto s potravou, napr. vo\u013ene pr\u00edstupn\u00e9 odpadky alebo prikrmovanie zo strany obyvate\u013eov. Na z\u00e1klade ter\u00e9nnej obhliadky d\u0148a 23.1.2024 nebolo zisten\u00e9 premno\u017eenie havranov. V \u010dase obhliadky na danom mieste a v jeho okol\u00ed sa \u017eiadne havrany nenach\u00e1dzali. Aut\u00e1 z fotografi\u00ed v podnete, ktor\u00e9 boli extr\u00e9mne zne\u010disten\u00e9 od trusu vt\u00e1kov sa nach\u00e1dzali v \u010da,se obhliadky na tom istom mieste ako na fotografi\u00e1ch v podnete. Z toho mo\u017eno tvrdi\u0165, \u017ee aut\u00e1 s\u00fa dlhodobo odstaven\u00e9 (bez jazdy, um\u00fdvania) na tom istom mieste a s\u00fa dlhodobo zne\u010dis\u0165ovan\u00e9 trusom vt\u00e1kov, \u010do nie je d\u00f4kazom premno\u017eenia havranov. V \u010dase obhliadky sa na niektor\u00fdch aut\u00e1ch nach\u00e1dzal trus od vt\u00e1kov (1 \u2013 2 trusy; vi\u010f fotografia vyhotoven\u00e1 po\u010das obhliadky 23.1.2024), pri\u010dom tak\u00e1to situ\u00e1cia sa m\u00f4\u017ee sta\u0165 pod ak\u00fdmko\u013evek stromom od ak\u00e9hoko\u013evek druhu vt\u00e1kov. V podnete sa spom\u00edna ohrozovanie \u013eud\u00ed, av\u0161ak nie s\u00fa moment\u00e1lne \u017eiadne hl\u00e1senia o prenose chor\u00f4b z havranov na \u010dloveka, z tohto d\u00f4vodu teda nie je d\u00f4vod vyd\u00e1va\u0165 opatrenia na ich pla\u0161enie alebo in\u00e9 v\u00e1\u017enej\u0161ie opatrenia1<\/a><\/sup>Toto mi nie\u010do pripomenulo, viac v Progres\u00edvne rie\u0161enia I<\/span>. \u010eakujeme za porozumenie.“<\/em><\/span><\/div>\n
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Samozrejme suseda som musel podpori\u01652<\/a><\/sup>Odpove\u010f refer\u00e1tu \u017e.p. som prevent\u00edvne ne\u010d\u00edtal, aby moja reakcia a tento fejt\u00f3n nemali 10 str\u00e1n, stru\u010dne mi problematiku pribl\u00ed\u017eil sused predv\u010derom pri pive<\/span>:<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

„Prid\u00e1vam sa k podnetu. Viem, \u017ee vrany, havrany a straky s\u00fa chr\u00e1nen\u00e9, ale aj keby neboli, treba k nim pristupova\u0165 ako k v\u0161etk\u00e9mu \u017eiv\u00e9mu. Ich inteligencia a schopnos\u0165 prisp\u00f4sobi\u0165 sa sp\u00f4sobili ich premno\u017eenie a n\u00e1sledn\u00fd \u00fabytok ostatn\u00fdch spevavcov. Ke\u010f som sa nas\u0165ahoval do Petr\u017ealky, boli tu s\u00fdkorky, vrabce, drozdy. Teraz ich havranovit\u00e9 vt\u00e1ky vytla\u010dili. Nepozn\u00e1m \u0161t\u00fadiu, ktor\u00e1 by sa t\u00fdmto probl\u00e9mom zaoberala. Pre ochran\u00e1rov bude zrejme neprijate\u013en\u00e1 redukcia ich po\u010dtu, ale by sa mali zauj\u00edma\u0165 o ochranu ostatn\u00fdch spevavcov, ktor\u00e9 havranovit\u00e9 vt\u00e1ky likviduj\u00fa. Preto v z\u00e1ujme ochrany napr. s\u00fdkoriek, drozdov a vrabcov by mohli n\u00e1js\u0165 rie\u0161enie. S\u00fa\u010dasne by prispeli k vyrie\u0161eniu probl\u00e9mu majite\u013eov \u00e1ut.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Trochu ironicky dopln\u00edm svoju reakciu na podnet: V \u010c\u00edne svojho \u010dasu rie\u0161ili probl\u00e9m s vrabcami, ktor\u00ed sp\u00f4sobovali po\u010das Kult\u00farnej revol\u00facie \u0161kody na obil\u00ed, ich pla\u0161en\u00edm. Mili\u00f3ny \u010c\u00ed\u0148anov vy\u0161li do pol\u00ed s gongmi a s in\u00fdmi n\u00e1strojmi vyd\u00e1vaj\u00facimi poriadny hluk. \u010co tak zapoji\u0165 na\u0161ich petr\u017ealsk\u00fdch d\u00f4chodcov a psi\u010dk\u00e1rov? Na ka\u017ed\u00fd strom, kde s\u00eddlia vrany treba upevni\u0165 zvon\u010dek, pri prech\u00e1dzke alebo ven\u010den\u00ed by sta\u010dilo potiahnu\u0165 za ozna\u010den\u00fd a led lampou osvetlen\u00fd mot\u00faz ved\u00faci k zvon\u010deku (vrany vyu\u017e\u00edvaj\u00fa stromy nad autami na odpo\u010dinok v noci, nie cez \u00faradn\u00e9 hodiny). V \u010dase progres\u00edvnych rie\u0161en\u00ed, by sa dalo vymyslie\u0165 vhodn\u00e9 smart pla\u0161enie vr\u00e1n. Len, aby to nedopadlo ako v mnoh\u00fdch in\u00fdch progres\u00edvnych bratislavsk\u00fdch rie\u0161eniach<\/a> tak, \u017ee spolu s vranami bud\u00fa odlieta\u0165 zo svojich okolit\u00fdch bytov aj obyvatelia Petr\u017ealky. Preto to treba riadne premyslie\u0165.“<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Nie som iba teoretik, preto som bol m\u00f4j smart pla\u0161i\u010d vr\u00e1n ostestova\u0165 v praxi, s\u00edce nie zvonen\u00edm, ale poklepan\u00edm na strom. To ste mali vidie\u0165 t\u00fa reakciu. Rad\u0161ej som sa be\u017eal domov, nechcel som dopadn\u00fa\u0165 ako dc\u00e9ra, Alfr\u00e9da Hitchcocka  m\u00e1m v \u017eivej pam\u00e4ti.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Zdroj<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

https:\/\/podnety.petrzalka.sk\/podnet\/1074<\/span><\/p>\n

Pozri tie\u017e Progres\u00edvne rie\u0161enia I.<\/span><\/p>\n

https:\/\/www.antikvar.sk\/blog\/progresivne-riesenia-fejton\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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